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      If you have questions following this week’s meeting, please use this thread, so that we can keep all related questions together 🙂

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      • Mike did I miss the name of the software or is it Nitro Pro

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          • Hi Jay, just NITRO, as far as I am aware. I’ve been playing with the free demo for a few days and love it – especially the way in which it integrates with Apple Photos (basically if I want to edit any files that reside in Photos, I just open Nitro and have instant access to my entire Photos library).

            Mike

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          • Your Questions and Answers from Nik Bhatt:

            Here are the answers to these questions, and people are welcome to follow up directly if they want at support@gentlemencoders.com

            c j chesney to Everyone (May 8, 2024, 11:50 AM)

            Nitro plus-minus features, stills vs moving pictures?

            Not clear what is meant by “plus-minus” features.

            The app does not edit video at this time. It’s something I hope to add at some point, but I don’t know if / when.

            Jim Corbin to Everyone (May 8, 2024, 12:00 PM)

            Does Photos handle Apple RAW well?

            Photos can display ProRAW and edit it, but it does not process the edits correctly. However, because of the way ProRAW works, the impact of this bug is not as severe as it is for regular RAW.

            Ed Adams to Everyone (May 8, 2024, 12:07 PM)

            Isn’t ProRaw an extension of DNG created in conjunction with Adobe? My processing software is having issues with working with it.

            ProRAW is a type of Linearized DNG. It is not a RAW file. It contains special metadata tags (added to the DNG spec in 1.6) that provide the information to display the image properly. That is what I meant by Linearized DNGs do not always appear correctly in all apps.

            Your processing software may be unaware of these new tags. If you want to review this Library of Congress link (!) it has some more info: https://www.loc.gov/preservation/digital/formats/fdd/fdd000594.shtml

            Betsy R Cramer to Everyone (May 8, 2024, 12:31 PM)

            How well does Affinity Photo work with RAW and how does it compare with your Nitro? …thanks for the presentation!

            Affinity Photo has its own RAW decoder. It does not use Apple’s (probably because it also runs on Windows). In my opinion, their decoder is not as good as Apple’s. Affinity Photo is more like Photoshop than Nitro.

            Both apps have some shared features, like image editing and masking. The features themselves vary a lot from app to app; AP has more image processing features in general than Nitro.

            Nitro is designed to integrate better with the Photo Library and the file system. It also has ratings and smart albums and such not present in AP. It’s more like Lightroom and Affinity is more like Photoshop.

            Bob McKenzie to Everyone (May 8, 2024, 12:32 PM)

            Does Nitro work with iPhone videos like Apple Photos does?

            Nitro can display and play videos. It cannot edit them (and it cannot edit Live Photos, other than the still image in a Live Photo).

            c j chesney to Everyone (May 8, 2024, 12:32 PM)

            What movie file types are supported by Nitro? What is a slo-mo movie?

            It supports any movie that can be played on a Mac using QuickTime Player. A Slo-Mo movie is a movie shot using a very high frame rate. Most videos are recorded at 24, 30, or 60 frames per second. Slo-mo movies are recorded at 120, 240, or higher.

            Recording at a high frame rate captures small movements better than low frame rate captures.

            As a result, when playing back a high-frame rate movie and “normal” rates, the motion is slowed down and small movements are more visible.

            Victoria Herring to Everyone (May 8, 2024, 12:33 PM)

            What I really miss about Aperture is the ability to rate, color, assign number, keynote, etc. and so in that fashion to be able to granularly organize. Photos doesn’t do that at least not sufficient for my purposes. So Nitro would be the way to get the granular detail assignments done the way I want? Also, is there a list view?

            Nitro does not have all of those features. It has ratings. It does not yet have keywords (it’s a long story, but I plan to add keywords). There is not a list view yet.

            Bob Hale to Everyone (May 8, 2024, 12:37 PM)

            Because iPad OS differs (somewhat?) from iOS, will both OS’s be compatible?

            Estimated schedule for availability?

            Nitro will run on both iPadOS and iOS. There are not many differences between them, but iPadOS has stuff like StageManager.

            I hope to ship the iOS / iPadOS version in May. Might slip to June.

            Everett Johnson-Arizona to Everyone (May 8, 2024, 12:37 PM)

            What is the cost of the app?

            If you buy the lifetime (single) purchase, it’s $99.99 USD. If you are a RAW Power customer, it’s discounted.

            Monthly is $3.99 and Annual is $29.99 – both are also eligible for RAW Power customer discounts.

            —Nik

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            • ANNOUNCEMENT: Nik Bhatt is coming back to see us on May 22nd!

              Nik was unhappy that the slide portion of his presentation extended longer than he had planned, causing him to not show as much of the Nitro app and field questions, as he intended. So, Nik offered to come back and join us again on May 22nd (in two weeks) to do more detailed demos of Nitro’s features, discuss specific editing adjustments, best practices, answer questions live and just hang out with us. Get your image editing, Nitro and Photos questions ready for Nik!

              To download a full-featured, one-week, free trial of Nitro > Go to the App Store, search: Nitro. Or click here: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nitro-photo/id1591292532?mt=12

              Take it for a spin.

              • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by  Chita Hunter.
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              • Was there a pdf?

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                  • Hi Lynda, no but Nik is back in two meetings time to further examine the app’s capabilities and answer questions.

                    Mike

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                  • Does anybody know if Nitro is fully compliant with the IPTC standards for metadata like Lightroom?

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                    • The DXO guys talk about RAW processing being a two stage process – restoration ( de-mosaicing and noise reduction which is 90% of the computation – this needs done first) and then rendering ( all the usual stuff but, despite its high profile, only requires 10% of the computational load that follows on). The first restoration processes seems to be automatic and out of user control. It seems as if there are one or two software packages that can access this early process – but apart form Nitro which ones? He touched on Nitro having direct access to the Apple RAW Convertor engine but he did not go into detail.

                      Any further information on which software can access the Restoration function and deep access to the Convertors? When h showed the Riverbank images at the end and used the Black slider, that looked like it?

                      URL below:

                      https://www.dxo.com/news/linear-dng/

                      • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by  William McKee. Reason: Typos and logical gaps
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                      • The Library of Congress filing on Adobe DNG 1.6 is pretty detailed, with background reading and well worth a look at. Adobe and Apple developed this spec jointly and released on the same day. One almost wonders about the levels of communications and cooperation between these teams ahead of ProRAW release – Adobe, Lux, Gentleman Coders…..

                        https://www.loc.gov/preservation/digital/formats/fdd/fdd000628.shtml

                        One of the references at the end of the LoC posting is to a LUX article, which is incredibly detailed. This goes into the RAW v ProRAW differences in technical depth – and shows when RAW might actually be better over ProRAW.

                        https://www.lux.camera/understanding-proraw/

                        I suppose, the question in my mind, is the risk of highlight blowout is fairly low under normal circumstances, should we abandon this preoccupation of RAW as the default alternative to JPEG and concentrate on Linear DHG and just leave the RAW output deliverable to that very small niche of people who definitely need it?

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                        • Capture One say they can read tone mapping instructions in DNG files (I presume Linear DNG) from 16.3. What other software can reliably read DNG XMP instructions as of now?

                          No use in having Linear DNG when the XMP instructions are being ignored – better to stick to RAW!

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                          • Thank you to Nik for such a wonderful Pt.2 to the Nitro presentation! Below are two additional answers to questions posed to Nik.

                            12:32:11 From c j chesney to Everyone:

                            I am scanning a Kodachrome 64 archive (slide film).

                            What scanner settings, if any, could be used to enable Nitro features? Could I blur the background of such a scanned image, and make a foreground object pop up?

                            Tell me about the quality of Nitro user documentation, delivered as a PDF document, fully indexed. Is it best-in-class (e.g., Mike Bombich, Carbon Copy Cloner, +- 300 pages)? For a mere mortal, like me.

                            I’m a bit unclear about the question. Scanners can produce images in a range of formats, so as long as it’s one that the app supports, it will work fine (e.g, a JPEG or a TIFF). With the image in hand, Nitro can be used to edit them, including background masks and such. There isn’t anything specific one has to do ahead of time, though it’s always a good idea to run a test with a sample image before embarking on a big project.

                            12:36:28 From Muffy Clark Gill to Everyone:

                            Are you going to have a user manual with this app?

                            As far as the manual goes, there isn’t one yet. I will be focusing on videos first, but will be working on a manual as I go. It will be an HTML-based manual rather than a big PDF or something like that. I made a PDF for RAW Power, but it was a huge hassle to update and to translate. As a single developer, I have to choose my tools and tasks wisely.

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